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Dear Admins/Bureaucrats (me included)

Hello guys, it is very true the wiki is clogged by a lot of vandalism, however, we also have to focus up front in the crucial areas of the wiki.

Crucial Areas:

It's true we can't be everywhere at the same time, but remember those who focus by doing their part in those areas. If our contributors are taking the time to mark questions for deletion, but yet we do not delete them; it makes us look worse than if we miss bad questions (or answers).

Cleaning Up

Just like when you're about to drive a car, the first things you check are: the gas meter, the oil, the tires, and you also check to make sure there isn't anyone in the back waiting to clobber ya... those small steps will ensure that your trip will be safe. I can assure you, those might take a minute or two but they are much easier than a trip to eternity unprepared, or a trip to the hospital (your pick) eek o_0 Although it doesn't warrant that nothing will happen to you, a person who doesn't do these things is only making the situation worse. But enough of the divine talk...

So far we had 12 questions in the candidates for deletion category, this one, in particular, sat there for 4 days. In those 4 days, we have all been visiting the wiki intermittently but we missed those. I blame myself as well:

So what do we do?

Delete accordingly and if you're not sure, leave it alone and let the next admin decide what to do with it. Make sure that we didn't get a vandal marking a bunch of questions for deletion, just for the fun of it (it has happened) and when you verify the questions have been marked in good faith, just delete or use. Feel free to comment as desired, although it's not necessary. Nobody is going to be forced to do this but if you don't do those simple steps to keep the wiki clean the best way we humanly can, then there is no reason to complain about how bad the wiki seems. ;)

--Liliana (my talk). 06:05, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Now the upper right menu links to the policy and this message, it took a while for the system to update that menu. --Liliana (my talk). 05:48, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
And candidates for deletion :) --Liliana (my talk). 06:07, May 25, 2011 (UTC)


Feel free to post comments here, thanks! --Liliana (my talk). 05:49, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

I think this is a great idea, but great as it may be, not many users are willing to mark articles for deletion, and so, we need to do something much. A great idea would be to assign certain sysop to certain areas, such as one checking candidates for deletion, one reverting vandalism, one blocking and like that. It'll help to get the job done easier. Just saying. Arceus The God of Pokemon 15:32, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

We used to have something like that back in 2009 in Wikianswers, but it was a bit different. It involved common users volunteering for category editors (each person would pick whatever category they wanted to patrol) and it was an option (not a requirement). One didn't need to be an admin to be a category editor. I think I was a category editor (for the Pokemon category) before Angela decided to ask me if I wanted to be an admin. Of course, I was delighted to be an admin, but well, category editors are something of the past. To set something like that up here requires some time. Also, users should sign up on their own, so far messages I send to the admins are directed to all admins, in reality, I'd like admins to feel free to chose what they do in a wiki as long as they follow the proper conducts of the wiki. If you have a better idea how this would be done at its best, I am sure all of us could benefit from ideas. Thank you. --Liliana (my talk). 12:20, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
Well, Achievements greatly increased the number of registered Users... anymore scams on how to increase the Users? I have an idea, lock the Wiki so Anons can't edit or ask questions... or how about spotlighting? Is this Wiki already spotlighted? Just sayin' Arceus The God of Pokemon 16:32, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

I have a question. Questions that are not specific enough to which game they are referring to (such as 'Where do I catch Pikachu); do you think we should delete them or keep them? Blogman12 21:29, June 10, 2011 (UTC) And also, what about questions that are more opinion based, like 'Which is the best movie?'"

Hello, Blogman thanks for all your help! Questions like Where do I catch Pikachu are ones that will be asked over and over again, a good solution to the problem (which I have done in a couple of occasions) is leave a note saying: "You do not specify what game you're referring to, so I will list a couple of questions that might be helpful. You can also rephrase the question to be more specific":
By the way, I included that in the answer to that question. Also, opinion based questions are left to each individual admin to decide what to do with them. Unless they harm the wiki I don't really have a strong opinion on getting rid of them. Warnings are only to be given though if a person deliberately makes opinion-based questions on a large scale. So banning a user just because they made 5 opinion based questions is not best. I hope I answered all your questions! --Liliana (my talk). 23:04, June 10, 2011 (UTC)
  1. Questions which aren't specific: I would give a bullet point form answer, the locations given for each game the Pokémon can be found in, one game per bullet point.
  2. Personally, I {{subst:red}} question seeking an opinion. A F K sig 2 An F K When Needed 03:50, June 11, 2011 (UTC)
The main problem with the wiki is people will ask a new question before searching the wiki for the answer. That means we get 50 different wordings of basically the same question. What I prefer to do with these is the answer in detail once on a well-worded version of the question, then re-direct all variations to it. Example: What level does Tepig evolve, and what links there for all pages that redirect to it. --Grynd (talk) 21:57, June 11, 2011 (UTC)
It'd be nice if we could agree on standard formulation for questions, e.g. what level does ____ evolve at? or at what level does _____ evolve? etc. A F K sig 2 An F K When Needed 05:28, June 12, 2011 (UTC)
That sounds like a good idea. I've made a new forum topic for that since it's a separate issue here. --Grynd (talk) 18:01, June 14, 2011 (UTC)
Several users, when they find that the question is already there, ask the same question in different wording or capital letters. We could make a rule that any user caught doing this would be banned and reinforce to search for a question if it is there and if it is not, then ask. I am...Arceus...The God...of Pokemon! 12:01, June 21, 2011 (UTC)
Ban users for asking questions?
...I'm going to have to oppose that idea... A F K sig 2 An F K When Needed 15:32, June 21, 2011 (UTC)
Same. Maybe a warning/reminder. Blogman12 18:38, June 21, 2011 (UTC)
There is no way of knowing if a user knows for sure that a question has been asked before unless the user-contributed to the question or the user made the question. So I would also have to disagree with you about this as well Arceus. --Liliana (my talk). 02:57, June 28, 2011 (UTC)

Just blocked a user for creating a page abusive to an Admin (not me). I blocked the user for two weeks, but I'm not sure that's the required action. What is the recommended one for pages that are abusive to users? And do we have banning criteria? Blogman12 18:38, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

To my knowledge, we don't have one which covers the topic of hate pages (or whatever you call it). The intent is pretty clear, as is the distinct lack of trying to improve the wiki. All I can tell you is that every part of me (Bureaucrat, Admin, member of the community, the person who needs a shower...) is perfectly at ease with your decision. A F K sig 2 An F K When Needed 12:55, June 22, 2011 (UTC)
That's good to know. I think we should have a banning policy so that the Admins are not confused. Blogman12 19:29, June 22, 2011 (UTC)
There's information in several places; unfortunately a lot of it is inconsistent with other sources. A F K sig An F K When Needed 20:58, June 22, 2011 (UTC)
Depending on the offense, I propose 2 weeks to 3 months. I remember a vandal getting me upset enough to block him for his audacity at making a question directed to a staff member in Wikianswers, got a 3 months block that time. I thought I was being kinda nice too ⌐_⌐ --Liliana (my talk). 03:12, June 28, 2011 (UTC)